We Meet on the Level — But We Are Not the Same

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Freemasonry teaches equality at the altar, but we all walk in with different histories, insights, and levels of development. In this episode, we examine how symbolic aprons—Entered Apprentice, Fellowcraft, Master Mason—aren’t just rituals, but lenses. Recognizing where others stand isn’t condescension; it’s the gateway to real teaching, empathy, and growth.

🔑 Key Takeaways
  • Meetings on the level don’t erase developmental differences—symbolic roles help us navigate them.
  • An apron is not just ritual garb—it’s a lens through which we perceive and respond.
  • Truth-telling requires acknowledgment of where others stand, not assumptions of equality.
💬 Featured Quotes
“is that while we meet on the level, we are not all operating at the same level.”  — [00:08]
“This becomes outrageously important when you consider the conversations you're having.”  — [00:15]
“If you are a lower level of development than they are, you want to be able to identify that as quickly as possible and then try and learn as much as you can.”  — [01:32]
“In order to do that, being able to identify when someone knows more than you or knows less than you and how to respond appropriately becomes vitally important.”  — [01:58]
“You'll reduce the biases that you come to the table with, which, again, reduces your efficacy to create change in the world.” — [05:45]

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Creators and Guests

Brian Mattocks
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Brian Mattocks
Host and Founder of A Mason's Work - a podcast designed to help you use symbolism to grow. He's been working in the craft for over a decade and served as WM, trustee, and sat in every appointed chair in a lodge - at least once :D
We Meet on the Level — But We Are Not the Same
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