The Rough Ashlar and the Burden: Making Sense of Challenge and Suffering
Download MP3Life presents us with both chosen challenges and unchosen suffering. In this episode, we explore how Freemasonry helps us discern between the two, and how both play a role in shaping us into more refined stones. The conversation asks: what does it mean to grow through adversity, and how do we bear the burdens that are not of our choosing?
🔑 Key Takeaways
- Challenges we choose stretch us toward growth; suffering we do not choose tests our resilience
- Both kinds of struggle serve as tools to shape the rough ashlar into something more refined
- Freemasonry provides perspective on finding meaning in hardship while staying aligned with purpose
đź’¬ Featured Quotes
- 0:00:14 – “I want to move from that to perhaps maybe a more nuanced understanding of what that really means when it comes to suffering versus challenge.”
- 0:00:22 – “The risks that we undertake that are going to help us grow are choices that we’re making—positive choices to stretch yourself.”
- 0:00:33 – “There are other times in your life that you have situations that you have not chosen. Uncomfortable situations, painful situations.”
- 0:00:42 – “Adversity is another opportunity to develop yourself as a person.”
đź”— Explore Related Episodes
- From the Cave to the Lodge: Escaping the Shadows of Superstition (Aug 13, 2025) — Reflects on emerging into light and understanding—mirroring the ashlar’s journey from raw to refined.
- The Ashlar and the Question of Growth (Jun 30, 2025) — Explores the symbolism of the ashlar as an agent of personal transformation.
- When Willpower Fails: Rethinking the Virtue of Struggle (Aug 1, 2025) — Questions assumptions about struggle and suffering—deepening the conversation on when endurance serves and when it wears us down.
Would you like me to also surface a few symbolic reflection questions tied to this theme (Rough Ashlar + burden), so listeners could use them as prompts after hearing the episode?
Creators and Guests

Host
Brian Mattocks
Host and Founder of A Mason's Work - a podcast designed to help you use symbolism to grow. He's been working in the craft for over a decade and served as WM, trustee, and sat in every appointed chair in a lodge - at least once :D
